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![]() I have a much simpler setup than many people in here I'm su Sky+ HD box WD TV Live (streams over my home network) Panasonic DMR-PWT655 DVD/Blu Ray player/HDD Recorder These all feed into: Yamaha RX-S601D (AV Amp) using HDMI The amp then feeds in to my Panasonic TX-L32E30B TV. The TV is just used as a monitor and all sound is played through the Yamaha. The Panasonic HDD recorder only records programmes from its own tuner, you cannot feed external kit in to it. Given all that there are occasions when it might be useful to be able to record a programme on an independent recorder which can also create a DVD from the recordings (an older Panasonic could do this and record to DVD RAM). The easiest place to insert it in the chain would probably be between the Yamaha amp and the TV - the AMP has about 6 HDMI inputs but only one output. Can I have some advice on what this theoretical bit of kit might be called please? There seem to be several HD recorders about but I haven't found any yet that can record to DVD. Many thanks. -- Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK Indecision is the key to flexibility |
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On 10/04/2018 18:48, Brian Gaff wrote:
I thought recording in hd was prohibuted somehow in the hdmi specs. Bang on. There's some quite sophisticated encryption going on in the HDMI chain. It's been cracked of course - but not by anything that will be easy to get, and I suspect not by anything legal in the UK. Andy |
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Vir Campestris wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote: I thought recording in hd was prohibuted somehow in the hdmi specs. There's some quite sophisticated encryption going on in the HDMI chain. It's been cracked of course - but not by anything that will be easy to get, and I suspect not by anything legal in the UK. HDMI splitter https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00LM4IJ60 and a dedicated HDMI recorder such as https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00J06Z906 or https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01EKJ944Y then edit and store on hard disc, or burn to DVD/BluRay depending on size |
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
... Vir Campestris wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: I thought recording in hd was prohibuted somehow in the hdmi specs. There's some quite sophisticated encryption going on in the HDMI chain. It's been cracked of course - but not by anything that will be easy to get, and I suspect not by anything legal in the UK. HDMI splitter https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00LM4IJ60 and a dedicated HDMI recorder such as https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00J06Z906 or https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01EKJ944Y then edit and store on hard disc, or burn to DVD/BluRay depending on size Easier to use a USB DVB-T2 decoder and PVR software. That's what I do and I've never had any restrictions on saving and editing HD video. I've never tried saving such a recording to DVD or BluRay: I save everything to HDD. Plex server can play it to a TV via a Roku box. I notice that my parents' dedicated PVR can export its SD recordings to a pen drive or other exterrnal disc (as long as it's FAT32 rather than NFTS - the usual restriction) but the Export option is greyed-out for HD recordings. I'm not such what the situation is for sub-SD recordings made from an H264 / DVB-T2 multiplex - is it HD or H264 which is banned? I'll have to try it. |
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On 10/04/2018 in message
NY wrote: [snipped] Many thanks for the input :-) Can SD be recorded from HDMI or does it somehow block all recording? With my old Panasonic I just connected using SCART (yuk) and I could record anything to the hard drive then transfer it to DVD. -- Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK Indecision is the key to flexibility |
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![]() The author has marked this message not to be archived. This post will be deleted on April 19, 2018. On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 22:04:03 +0100, "NY" wrote as underneath : "Andy Burns" wrote in message ... Vir Campestris wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: I thought recording in hd was prohibuted somehow in the hdmi specs. There's some quite sophisticated encryption going on in the HDMI chain. It's been cracked of course - but not by anything that will be easy to get, and I suspect not by anything legal in the UK. HDMI splitter https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00LM4IJ60 and a dedicated HDMI recorder such as https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00J06Z906 or https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01EKJ944Y then edit and store on hard disc, or burn to DVD/BluRay depending on size Easier to use a USB DVB-T2 decoder and PVR software. That's what I do and I've never had any restrictions on saving and editing HD video. I've never tried saving such a recording to DVD or BluRay: I save everything to HDD. Plex server can play it to a TV via a Roku box. I notice that my parents' dedicated PVR can export its SD recordings to a pen drive or other exterrnal disc (as long as it's FAT32 rather than NFTS - the usual restriction) but the Export option is greyed-out for HD recordings. I'm not such what the situation is for sub-SD recordings made from an H264 / DVB-T2 multiplex - is it HD or H264 which is banned? I'll have to try it. If the OP decides to go down the splitter/stripper route, ask again, a lot of them dont work well, get very hot, dont strip HDCP properly or at all etc. etc. Then you have to record the un-encrypted hdmi signal to DVD, hardly anything will do that outside a computer with an hdmi input card. |
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On 12/04/2018 in message
Charlie+ wrote: If the OP decides to go down the splitter/stripper route, ask again, a lot of them dont work well, get very hot, dont strip HDCP properly or at all etc. etc. Then you have to record the un-encrypted hdmi signal to DVD, hardly anything will do that outside a computer with an hdmi input card. I'm beginning to wish I had replaced the blown caps on my Panasonic :-( Perhaps I'll try eBay for an older Panny with SCART since it is so much hassle with HDMI. -- Jeff Gaines Wiltshire UK The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant |
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![]() The author has marked this message not to be archived. This post will be deleted on April 19, 2018. On 12 Apr 2018 07:47:58 GMT, "Jeff Gaines" wrote as underneath : On 12/04/2018 in message Charlie+ wrote: If the OP decides to go down the splitter/stripper route, ask again, a lot of them dont work well, get very hot, dont strip HDCP properly or at all etc. etc. Then you have to record the un-encrypted hdmi signal to DVD, hardly anything will do that outside a computer with an hdmi input card. I'm beginning to wish I had replaced the blown caps on my Panasonic :-( Perhaps I'll try eBay for an older Panny with SCART since it is so much hassle with HDMI. Yep thats the cheap route! Only, if in the future you start going to bigger than 32" display then AV type SD recordings begin to look pretty shabby! |
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On 10/04/2018 21:21, Andy Burns wrote:
Vir Campestris wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: I thought recording in hd was prohibuted somehow in the hdmi specs. There's some quite sophisticated encryption going on in the HDMI chain. It's been cracked of course - but not by anything that will be easy to get, and I suspect not by anything legal in the UK. HDMI splitter https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00LM4IJ60 and a dedicated HDMI recorder such as https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00J06Z906 HDMI 1.4b. IIRC a lot of stuff these days is asking for 2.2 - but ICBW. or https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01EKJ944Y "Copy Protection HDMI input is unable to capture from copy protected HDMI sources. Always confirm copyright ownership before capture or distribution of content." then edit and store on hard disc, or burn to DVD/BluRay depending on size |
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